Sunday, August 4, 2013

For what purpose

Before the next scene is decided on, I'd like to ask something: 

 What are you looking forward to?

Before you say "porn", I mean something a little more specific. What characters are your favorite? Does the concept we're going with seem interesting? Basically, whether its confirmed or not, what are you hoping to see out of a Zelda VN?

I may or may not have an answer to your questions, nor is this a "if I tell you what I want to see, will you do it?" type of a deal. Nevertheless, I feel it would be beneficial to know just what it is you may be sticking around for.

50 comments:

  1. What's with the insecure questionnaire?

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    1. Wasn't my intention to sound insecure, I am just genuinely curious what people are hoping to see out of the project. Perhaps I should remove that embarrassing bit I threw in there.

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    2. Can i talk...?Serious...I seachiring some Hentai images on Google,and what i found?This Blogger haha!So...Not from sure,but i too creating some game (Ok,is a Hentai game on RPG Maker VX Ace),and man...I can't create some good image to the game,and the problem bigger than my "Wolf" there...I EVEN FOUND A SEXY IMAGE OF SARIA!!! What is wrong on the web to even not find a little ecchi image of she?!

      (Sorry about my bad English,i'm a just goofy Brazilian)

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  2. I'm not exactly sure what you're asking, but I'll try to give an answer. What always endeared me to Ocarina of Time (and made porn so desirable) was just the sense of adventure in the game. I can't put my finger on it but something about it's world and characters was always very immersive to me. I seem to remember having a crush on almost all the main "love interests" even though none of them really had any elaborate dialogue. I was also always really fascinated by the various "cultures" each time I encountered a new race. I wanted to know how these species like the Kokiri and Zora actually lived. (Of course this inspired some kinkier fantasies as well.)

    So yes, I'm excited for porn, since OoT porn is a rare commodity relative to how big of a deal the game actually was. But beyond that I'm hoping that you'll be able to capture a bit of that adventure and world building that made me find the game fascinating to begin with. I'm not expecting any kind of advanced gameplay, but I hope that this game will be able to evoke at least a little bit of that childhood feeling of adventure discovery, with a sexual twist. The "other side" to OoT that my hormone addled mind would speculate about when I first played through the game.

    I might have made my expectations seem a little lofty there, but before I saw this blog and the progress you guys have already made I probably never would have dreamed that such a detailed project would ever be made to begin with. I have no doubt that you guys have the talent to make something wholly satisfying. I even really considered vying for a writer position since you guys seemed so in tune with the kind things I have been fantasizing about since OoT's release, but I don't trust myself with deadlines. I'll probably have more fun experiencing the game as a outsider anyway, and seeing what you creative people come up with.

    Sorry, I take my porn a little too seriously.

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    1. Man, you really went above and beyond with that response. This is the type of reply I was looking for. I was worried I may have botched what I was trying to get across in my post.

      I find it interesting how you brought up the lack of "elaborated dialogue". As memorable and captivating as OoT's characters were, its true they had very limited dialogue or moments where you can truly get a grasp of who that character is. Even the "hints" you could receive from Navi and Saria throughout the entire game doesn't offer much insight into their character. And obviously, minor characters like Fado are even more difficult to pinpoint. Its already proven to be a fair challenge keeping true to these heroines and a silent Link, but the last thing we want is for them to feel out of character.

      Which leads me into "adventure and discovery". I'm sure there are many people out there who would disagree with us fiddling with the events of OoT, but OoT is neither a VN, or remotely sexual (aside from some very few exceptions that could be exploited). If you copy OoT, not only are you going to have to shoehorn in shipping and out of place, awkward sex scenes, you're going to make the VN predictable. You'll also end up skewing these characters to get them to do what you want, no matter which way you slice it. We would rather introduce gameplay/story elements that make those foreign events seem more natural by having Link and the heroines adapt to what's happening around them. The partner system and monster girls are just two obvious changes we're implementing that will hopefully help achieve that. With any luck, these changes will not only allow for fresh exploration/discovery, but keep things from feeling forced as well.

      Its true you will probably enjoy the project more as a consumer, rather than a developer. We could use the help, so its a shame, but its good you realized ahead of time that there's a lot of real work involved and that you may not have the time for it all.
      Thanks for the insight and faith in us, it means a lot.

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  3. Um, wow. I was going to say something but the weirdo above summed it up much better than I would have.

    Except the part where I think the "love interests" in OoT weren't really... elaborated on? There wasn't much in the way of dialogue with them, so you didn't really get a feel for them, like what kind of people they are. I don't think I'm good at explaining this.

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    1. I know exactly what you mean about not really having the opportunity to get a true feel for the characters. Its something I kind of touch on in my response to the anon above.

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  4. I'm hoping to see you guys get a Yaoi artist, for Yaoi scenes. When it comes to any porn regarding Young Link or even Link, it's almost non-existant.

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    1. You've probably heard me say there's plenty of time for a yaoi artist to appear far too often by now. Its pretty clear at this point that one isn't going to come to us, so we've been keeping an eye out for anyone who may be willing to lend a hand.
      We also haven't done any sort of promotion ourselves in ages, which is really stifling offers to help. Once we work that out we should get some new blood.

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  5. I pretty much agree with the super lengthy post up there, except for mostly gay stuff instead. It's why I followed /f/dude's Hentai Quest, and it's something i hope to see in here, but i won't be holding my breath.

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    1. I'm not about to try and get your hopes up here after all this time. We've still got a very long ways to go, but it is unfortunate that we've been unsuccessful on that front so far.

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  6. Just here to see how the progress continues. I'm mostly interested in seeing gay scenes, but I've been trying to pitch help with criticism in everything. I'm interested in seeing the altered story, the mechanics and such as well. I'm interested in the project as a whole.

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    1. Much appreciated. Hope we come across a yaoi artist soon.

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    2. I hope so too, either way I'll be trying to help as much as I can through feedback and such.

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  7. >What character is your favorite?
    Mah husbando, Link.
    >Does the concept we're going with seem interesting?
    Yes, otherwise why would I be here?
    >Basically, whether its confirmed or not, what are you hoping to see out of a Zelda VN?
    Porn and story, maybe some very small bits of gameplay or puzzles.

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    1. >Does the concept we're going with seem interesting?
      >Yes, otherwise why would I be here?
      For Zelda/OoT I would assume. That question was definitely unclear, but by concept I meant the ideas we're subjecting OoT to. If we were working on the same ideas, just without the OoT setting and characters, would this VN still seem interesting?

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    2. Well there's only three aspects I've seen you guys "subject OoT" to. One of them being the monster girl aspect (Which I'm not crazy about), heroines having more of an impact on game play and obviously porn.

      It would seem far less interesting, plus no Link.

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  8. Favorite characters are saria and ruto

    and i wish to see much anal scenes and tentacle scenes

    :)

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    1. Plenty of opportunities there

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    2. Yes you can make a scene from the boss of the water temple and ruto tentacle rape scene with anal and much more pls :)

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  9. My favorite is Link by far, i just want to see how you guys progress through this project.

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    1. "i just want to see how you guys progress through this project"
      Me too

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  10. Mostly just looking forward to your gorgeous art, Ling. I always loved your stuff and when I found out you were the main artist for this I was super excited. I know I must sound like such a suck up right now but I just wanted to give an opposing voice since a lot of people on 4chan seem to dislike your art for some reason.

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    1. Wow, thanks man. I haven't heard anyone be this nice about my work in a very long time. You wouldn't happen to be the anon who knew who I was and wanted me to respond in that one "viral" thread are you?
      Haha, given the overall reception of my stuff lately, I wonder how many people are going to think I'm samefagging orz

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    2. Actually that might have been me, lol. I was a little over-excited because I had just been looking at your stuff on Paheal and been thinking like "man that guy hasn't done anything new in a while" and then I immediately hop on 4chan and see you're working on this.

      Yeah but that thread was a disaster, we probably shouldn't talk about it. I hope you're still interested in the Ruto incest suggestion though, that sounded good.

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    3. Glad you discovered that thread then, as working on certain projects, a plethora of life situations, and a few hard drive failures all but killed any potential updates on my hf account. Aside from this project, I'm just (way too meticulously) working on some FE commissions.

      I thought that particular thread was pretty decent once we discovered it and joined the party. Some of the others I've seen in archives... not so much. Still, its been a real eye opener so far, and I can only improve.
      I'm pretty big on incest, not to mention Ruto, so I'm definitely going to be pushing for that. I've made sure to save that thread just so I don't forget some of the ideas people brought forth because I liked them so much.

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  11. I know you are pushing to try to include some yaoi scenes, but will there be any yuri scenes as well? I'm a big fan of Zelda/Ruto, but I'll take what I can get. I understand straight sex is the main focus, but just one or two scenes would be a neat bonus.

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    1. I'm not sure if Zelda/Ruto will happen, but yuri is a possibility.
      To be honest I have plans for a little bit of yuri between two characters we haven't really shown on the blog. Whether or not that pans out, or if they "count", is another issue.

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  12. What I kinda expected in the project is that it has that special feel in it. I cant really explain that special feel but part of it has that special gameplay or the game itself has something special in it. Also porn. Kinda hoped that malon,sheik,Impa, and Anju would appear in the game.

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    1. Malon will be in the game.

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    2. Like chrom said, Malon is a sure deal.
      We are planning on representing the others you listed, but they're such a long way off that I'm not about to say for sure whether it'll happen or not.

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  13. My favorite character is Sheik and kid Zelda, and I hope to live out my fantasy of fucking everyone in OoT, like in that french Bad Zelda doujin. Also some good puzzles and fun combat would really tie the game together. So are the artists right now really too prude to draw gayporn?

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    1. Having a route modeled after Bad Zelda is actually something I was talking about with /f/dude, as that seemed to be his plan for LoZHQ. We'll need to make far more progress before we really consider it a possibility though. Same can be said about the number of romance-able female characters.

      Personally, yaoi is just not my thing. I was thinking about sucking it up and trying my hand at it last night, but there are a few other reasons that stopped me. Drawing takes me quite a bit of time in general and I have quite a few things on my plate as it is. I would much rather try and find someone willing to do those scenes.

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    2. Not the same anonymous you replied to, but I wanted to say it would have been pretty neat to see you have tried to make a yaoi scene, opposed to having to rely on another artist.

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    3. I'm not opposed to trying it out if I've got the time for it. That said, I can't see myself doing anywhere near the necessary amount of scenes, and there's so much work that needs to be done as is.
      Relying on another artist would just be immensely helpful in a variety of ways.

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    4. Well you could always do some of the scenes to get it started whenever you have free time. It might also lessen the burden for any artists later on and make it seem more appealing to enter your team and help.

      Plus there's a lot of people here who would like to see it.

      The only downside is, that it takes up time for you.

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    5. It might lessen a potential artist's burden, but you're right, it certainly would make things harder on me. I was initially just the colorist, but I've ended up taking on quite a few areas of development. I would have to be drawing these on top of what I'm already doing.
      We shall see what the future holds. I want to humor you guys, but the chance of me drawing those scenes up myself is admittedly slim for the time being.

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  14. Anju (Cucco lady) is the one I hope to see most.

    /f/dude's project was going to be centered around impregnation which I find intensely erotic, but even if this project isn't focused on that, so long as it has internal cumshots then it's fine by me.

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  15. Is it possible to bring Midna in? i really hope to see her there

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    1. That's something we've put a ton of thought into. Not just for Midna, but other girls outside of OoT as well.
      The simple answer is; I don't know. It is certainly possible, but her inclusion would be so far down the line its way too early to tell.
      Fun fact: discussion about Midna's inclusion actually lost us a recruit a while back.

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  16. Just two Questions how many Characters are in (right now and will be and can you draw everyone in a gallery or something) and is the plot characters area and the rest exactly from ocarina of time or is there "Bonus Content" ?

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    1. 2 partners and 3 non-partner characters as of right now (that I know of) How many will there be? We're not entirely sure yet, but it'll be a few. Not sure what you mean by drawing everyone in a gallery. There will be "Bonus Content" of some sort for sure in the future but as of what it will be exactly is still up for discussion.

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  17. This is just an idea I had and you by no means have to entertain my random request but I suddenly thought it would be really nice if there some "innocently erotic" art pieces. For example maybe there is a CG of Saria sitting talking to you and you can see her slit through the leg of her shorts. Just a few art pieces to tease the player so they're all worked up by the time they reach the sex scenes.

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    1. Actually, we've worked on similar scenes within the script. We haven't created any images for them, but it's certainly a possibility later on.

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  18. I don't know if anyone will see this since I barely found it today but I was born in the 90's and was at the perfect age and Ocarina of Time was my very first Zelda game. As a kid I thought a lot of the girls were pretty or cute (Malon) and once I found computer roms for 64 games in High school and OoT 3D I admit that like Anonymous I have always thought of all that was possible fantasy or pairing wise, but nothing was ever done outside of fanfiction that was any good. They made a Zelda dating sim on Newsgrounds but wasn't that good and 4chandude abandoned the Zelda Hentai Quest. It would be awesome to see this finished at some point. But I was wondering what girls would be in it or is no one being excluded? All of them in some way have an appeal to me whether it's Zelda, Malon, Saria, Anju, Impa, or even Nabooru. But like I said is anyone being excluded? Like Twinrova, the Great Fairies, etc? Anyways I can't think of what else to say so there you go ^^

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    1. Oh and I just thought of more after reading some of the other comments I think it would be cool if you guys brought in girls from other Zelda games, especially since Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword have the most I think out of the other games. Like Agitha, Ashei, Hena, Ilia, Queen Rutela, and Telma from Twilight Princess. Fi, Karane, Orielle, Piper, Peatrice, Kina and Impa, (time paradox?) from Skyward Sword

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    2. It may be like pouring salt on a wound at this point, but we weren't planning on excluding any of the major OoT heroines. However, minor characters, for example Anju, would've been dependent on how development was going and whether or not it was feasible at that time. That said, judging by Kokiri Forest, where we even ended up creating personalities for and including two "generic" kokiri girls (though they aren't shown on the blog), most, if not all, of the notable female characters would have probably been included if things had proceeded as planned.

      We also had discussions about including major girls outside of OoT such Midna and Fi. If development for the main game had gone well and we had the time and willpower, its something that would most likely have happened in tandem with the inclusion of the minor female characters in OoT . At least, we were certainly excited about the idea. Even so far as talking over having one of them appear as an easter egg in the demo just so we could get a jump on it.


      The unfortunate reality is we never really made it outside of Kokiri Forest. Our work and build went through numerous revisions and while we certainly saw a large leap in quality from when we first started, the team was steadily falling apart and things still weren't at the level we (or I) was hoping they'd be at.

      I definitely thank you for the comment and interest, but I'll be straight with you. Taking everything that's happened with this project in the past couple of months into account, I would not hold your breath waiting for a true update. While I am still around, sadly things haven't changed from when I made that comatose post. Interest would need to be rekindled and a new team (or motivation from the old team) would need to happen.

      Out of curiosity, how did you happen across this blog?

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    3. I was looking at comments for the game 4chandude abandoned years ago about the OoT Hentai quest that said he was working on this game. And if what you say is true about not holding my breath then while it's sad I understand.

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    4. Ah, well /f/dude was a part of this for a while and almost finished an animation, but unfortunately he ended up disappearing a long time ago.
      And yeah, the situation now isn't too pretty, but I will continue to keep an eye on things and any opportunities that may arise.

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